Hi again Brandon, I looked at your link and see you have some sort of recording studio? It could be the cap I was using was just too small for the job. I don’t know if the comments on this old post are still checked, but I was thinking about a passive distortion circuit in my new guitar wiring. It may give you too much of a voltage drop. Low Impedance Oxygen Free Silver Cable- UK Made, Heavy Duty Cable- Monster plugs- Noiseless Upgrade Cable, Vintage Style Cotton Plaid Cable, Gold Tipped Plugs, Studio Pro- Noiseless Cable, Amphenol Gold Plated Plugs, GFS Pedalboard Pro Angled Interconect Cable. Polite: A little grit for single-coils; mild distortion for humbuckers and P-90s. 1-SPST Toggle Switch(279-0834 It’s also possible that you cannot achieve your specific goal of combining two passive filters directly together because one affects the other. This is the single most versatile distortion effect in the whole world, and it mounts right IN YOUR GUITAR. Sorry to bug you again, Joe. If would be great, however, in any context where you need a crunch sound at restrained levels, like when playing in a stage pit band. Guitar World is supported by its audience. once I dig myself out from this mountain of crap, https://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Black_Ice_overdrive/Black_Ice.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=17287, https://tonefiend.com/tonefiend-forum/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=85.0, https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_4.html, https://tonefiend.com/effects/amped-up-acoustic/. Check the image supplied for basic circuits for low pass, high-pass, and bass and treble boost. You would probably end up with a strong octave effect. Check out our, NEW!! Interesting project—good luck! I started at 84 Hz which is one octave up from low E and went up by octaves from there. I’m amazed how some of the EHX effects have remained in my pedal chain – none which are newer than 1983. Pardon the upcoming math.

. I never tried that — I just copied the original formula. LEDs won’t work at all. I’m going to try that if I ever clear out the crap currently piled up in my bench. So how can I make the pedal version? It has some tremolo on the channel, and a mild delay, but mostly it’s about how much sustain you get from that channel of the amp with the neck pickup of an instrument through the 0.1uf capacitor. a silicon and a Schottky) back to back from ground to the other terminal. ... Used Ibanez DS7 Guitar Effects Distortion/Overdrive . Thanks for sharing! Sorry, that just won’t work at all — you need to two diodes oriented in opposite direction to produce the effect. 84 Hz, C = 7.6 nF. With high output pickups in series you might get a result you like with Germanium or even Silicon. real easy and kinda neat. Onboard effects have earned a reputation as cheesy, low-budget products. I could sit there and google what each symbol means, but my time is a little limited at the moment. I’m looking to do this with a couple Schottky diodes on a PJ bass setup with 2 vols and 1 tone. Sorry if this is vague, I have already some difficulty wrangling these concepts in French, and this isn’t easy to write about in English. The blended settings just don’t do much for me — the pot acts more as a clean/dirty blend than a distortion control per se, and the mixed settings strike me as a thin trickle of distortion suspended over a clean sound. Pedals that help create your guitar’s basic tone – like overdrive, distortion, wah, EQ – should come before pedals that modify or change the sound, like chorus or phasers. I’m gonna go check out the link you sent right now. With active effects, you can boost the signal to allow diodes with higher threshold voltages to work. But, strings have higher harmonics that can be heard, for example, when you slap the string, or pick with a Fender heavy right near the bridge. wire. The return one seems to just make your signal sound a bit farty and loses its clarity, Great question! Running into some problems. Standard Si diodes turn on about 0.7V. Place the cap in question BETWEEN the hot lead from the pickup to the lug of the pot where it currently connects. | So, start by choosing the NOTE on the bass that you want to be most prominent. So “how it sounds” depends a lot on your pickups. Gah! Usually Schottky diodes turn on at around 0.2V, and have a relatively low resistance once on. Dudo que funcione, y, si es así, ¿por qué no subes un vídeo con esos diodos y no con el blackice? I actually ended up deciding that the diagram in the link I gave was crap, and applied some recently attained knowledge of the basics to figure out how to get the two components to work that do currently work. Meet the Quesocaster! You could also try changing out just ONE of the diodes, e.g. Also, they would have a higher on-resistance, making for more of soft-clipped sound. There is a way around this, but it would involve putting resistors in (such as the RC bandpass I gave you the link for). Ok, you could use only 1 diode – but it would clip only half of the waveform. The QDD2 is an upgraded model of the original QDD. Used Danelectro FAB DISTORTION D-1 Guitar Effects Distortion/Overdrive . Sicone diodes works great. For more bass cut at the maximum-cut position, step down to a .001uF. If you start with two low voltage diodes like Schottkys, and then unbalance it by replacing one with a silicon or germanium diode, the result will be louder. Now I did try putting a battery in a canteloupe, and WOW! Once driven into clipping, Schottky diodes produce a smaller signal and therefore sound quieter than Germanium and then Silicon. The silicon diodes actually have no perceivable (that I can tell) volume drop compared to the germanium ones. furthermore, I don’t necessarily have a specific sound in my head I’m trying to go for, it’s more of a “hey, what would happen if I did this?” kinda frankenstein project. I have an acoustic guitar I recently refinished and put a piezo and preamp into. I’ve seen the Black Ice & wondered about putting it in, but I like your super low-cost solution…  I might do this to the Batman Logo guitar! Artec QDD2 Quadra Distortion Driver board, simple component that allows you to add killer distortion effects directly to your guitar or amplifier (including cigar box guitars and amps). But a .002uF and a 500k pot work great for me. They were basically diodes with a couple of resistors and capacitors that were also encased in plastic resin. GROUND. I will try to get ahold of some variety of diodes and experiment, and do some reading about small audio transformers . Thanks a lot for the help. Learn how your comment data is processed. OK I think I have figured out the main problem. Will report back if it works. Home Depo Part Onboard Multi-Distortion Circuit- Hot Rodded tone! distortion pedals that provide switching for different diode types do not include any gain normalization to drive each diode type to the same degree of clipping. Joe used a 1M pot and an 0.0022uf for the bass. But trust me, man — no one thinks you’re stupid. If I put a signal booster on when the distorted sound was there? Whether you're a new guitarist buying your first beginner guitar or a seasoned guitarist adding another guitar to your ever-growing collection, we're here to help you navigate the vast array of choices you'll find on these pages. For delayed distortion, use the effects loop after the preamp. Whichever combination has the lower sum of forward voltages is the quietest. What kind of pickups do you have? Forget the pedal board, just install the "Tube Driver" circuit right into your guitar. It doesnt have a ground, not that I can see, but the cable that leads to the jack has a red, black and white(?) Well, just answered my own question, I didn’t realize the single pole lug on the switch was constant and when you flip the switch you just add the other throw…. Best of all, street price is about 399, making it an affordable all-in-one solution for Kaoss-curious guitarists. DO NOT confuse these with similar circuits touted on ebay- we have these custom made to our specs- FOUR different distortion effects AND an active boost mode, right at your fingertips- the whole lot instantly switchable, just turn the knob.. I should stick to the forum, where I can edit my stupid remarks! But don’t let the low price fool you, this thing is on par with Bias FX 2. Thanks for the info on the frequencies of specific caps. In the future, I’ll experiment with other pot values — or more likely, just attach the diodes to a SPST switch and consider it an all-or-nothing effect. I can get a really murky, underwater tone from it, and I’m looking for the bass knob to allow drastic cuts as well, Hey Joe what’s the diagram for wiring this on a pot? If the gain of the diode driving circuit is adjusted to produce the same degree of clipping then the different diode types all start to ‘sound’ similar. I suppose also if you wan to stay with a passive circuit inside the guitar you might try a small audio transformer. Put a new battery in and try the guitar. Meanwhile… it would help to start by having a specific goal in mind frequency wise. (Yup, a 1M pot is fine too.) Lift your pick guard and just hang the bits on a piece of perfboard onto your guitar with croc clips. favorite this post Feb 5 Original vintage dod fx10 preamp pedal $60 (Westland) hide this posting restore restore this posting. LEDs are all different beasts, and the turn-on voltage depends on the semiconductor material and the wavelength; the lowest turn-on voltage is about 1.6V and can go up to about 4V for some Violet/UV LEDs. I’m not understanding? "Clapton" style mid boost circuit- Drive your amp! Starts out with a FAT boost great for fattening up Single Coils, and it cranks all the way up to a screaming Mid/Treble boost sure to push your amp over the edge! 336 Hz, C = 1.9 nF (1900 pF, 0.0019 uF), 84 Hz, C = 3.8 nF (3800 pF, 0.0038 uF) If you look at the comments above, I quoted some specifications on other diodes. I can’t notice any changes though. Meanwhile, discovered the Blower Switch mod, and am adding that to a guitar this morning! The ptb wiring mentioned on this site worked well on two guitars I’ve wired. Distortion is an audio phenomenon caused when the input signal is too high for the output device. The bass pot needs to be a high value and the capacitor quite small. So I’ll keep it going til I get it to work. If you can, then you could use the band frequencies at the edge of the center zone which isn’t being cut and use these for the corner frequencies of your bandpass filter. Guitar Preamp- Gain/Bass/Mid/Treble- Our Best Unit! Tested it, and it worked. It is simply how I think and my hope is that if I am unable to communicate, perhaps someone with better grounding in the real world can assist. Do I have to solder a cable from one side of the peftboard to the other and call it “ground”? I really want to make the #1 project but It needs more effort and time that I don’t really have right now. Check it out! Then I started thinking about what was happening. Noiseless Cable, Pro Quality Plugs, GFS Logo Cable, BEST! OK, here’s my back of the napkin suggestion. use a Schottky on one side and the Ge diode on the other. What types of diodes are you using? Notes above this will roll off at (decrease) 6 dB per octave increase in frequency. The Artec QDD2 and a demo of the Active Onboard Effects Processor. Did you know you can add a simple circuit to your guitar or bass that produces onboard distortion — without using a battery? When that worked, I then did a happy dance like a crazy man :cuckoo: who had way too much coffee :coffee: But as stated in reply to Joe below, I’ve got some more reasearch to do to figure out why the diodes aren’t working and why the 10pf cap isn’t trimming off bass. I looked at the “Switched” diagram on the link you supplied. . This article goes on at great length about what I think you are trying to accomplish. Desvan Hendrix: there's no need to prove anything: i've just clipped two leds with a resistor and two schotty diodes as well, and these things make a sort of fuzzy and dirty distortion. Traditionally, to distort an audio signal, a powered device is used to boost, or "overdrive" the original signal. It definitely created a distortion effect, but it’s much more gratifying here with the higher output P-90s and humbuckers. Distortion Pedal: Ts-9 submitted by Varshini on July 2, 2019, 11:07pm This was a bit confusing at first for me. Glued In Setneck ST/TE Style Neck/Body assembly, Bostac Brand USA Designed Roadie Flashlights, Best Value! I can easily imagine getting by with three settings: wide-open (bypassing the tone caps), some small cap (for just taking a bit of edge), and a cap between .022uF and .047uF for a dark, rolled-back tone suitable for EBow. This, quite often, will solve the problem. I’d really like to be able to have an acoustic guitar with some grit in it , I don’t think that’s likely to work with a piezo, Jack, though you might get interesting results if you had a magnetic soundhole pickup. Wiring It Up. It’s a shame the blending isn’t any better. Is the negative side of a battery the groudn? This dual-pickup guitar is wired for two volumes and one tone. Actually a pair of back to back Schottky diodes clips at around 400 to 500mV peak to peak. . Before recording this demo, I tried a Black Ice in a vintage-voiced Strat. I have no idea which exact diodes the Black Ice uses, but the two types I mentioned will get you very close. To also serve the law of the popular market … , Hey all I have a question on this. Today I added some clips over at my forum post about rectification https://tonefiend.com/tonefiend-forum/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=85.0. I do own a studio, but not the one I’m pictured in on my web site. Thanks for the quick reply guys. As coincidence would have it, I too am currently in the UK. Keep in mind this will just be an approximation of what you would achieve with an RC bandpass filter, but it would help you determine whether it’s even worth the effort. https://tonefiend.com/guitar/onboard-distortion-without-a-battery "Onboard Passive Underdrive Distortion Mod " Traditionally, to distort an audio signal, a powered device is used to boost, or "overdrive" the original signal. E. Awesome! Also, there is a new version of the “Black Ice” available from StweMac. It is a Passive Unit (no external power or batteries needed), that when in used in place of your standard Capacitor on your Tone Control Pot, the audio signal is "Clipped" to produce a gritty distorted tone. Compressor, EQ, and Boost Pedal with 6 Onboard Presets and MIDI Input - Stainless Steel $329.00. Conclusions: Interesting, inexpensive, and possibly useful. 336 Hz, C = 0.95 nF (oh heck 1.0 nF) (1000 pF or 0.001 uF). Per usual, Terry has jumped in with a better response thannI might have managed. This is great, btw that’s IT. Add the ability to cut some of the lows at the flick of a switch, a good long delay time, and some rhythmic kill switch timing, you’ve got a really interesting bass sound that doesn’t sound much like a bass. | Sure, back in the ‘80s, most analog delays sounded great straight into an overdriven Vox AC30 or Marshall JCM800.But those amps predated modern multi-effects units that have an abundance of sounds that would just be obscured by the front of a distorted amp. I’ve already got a couple of sound samples of the current working order of the bass on my band’s instagram (look up @projectdivide – little video clips are in there). I always liked the Ge diodes best in those circuits. I’ve actually built a few pedals using the Black Ice. hope that helps clarify I want it to be not hardwired in, but toggle switchable. The first one is based on the one that includes a switch to turn it on FULL. What kind of resitencia use? Do you know any on line store that I can get the items for cheap in Europe? We’re so accustomed to distortion adding volume that it’s a bit unnerving when it has the opposite effect. that said, all I’m looking for is something that will work as a switchable low cut filter for the bass that I can wire in with the switchable high cut filter I already have, as well as a working diode distortion. The cap values below are calculated, but mostly aren’t easily available values. Dang… I thought that would be the case. Onboard Passive Distortion Mod. Well, the buffer wouldn’t change anything, but the booster/buffer from DIY club would. To start with just try making the bass cap 10 times smaller in value. 1-Round PVC style used for electric wiring (Trim & modified for it’s out shell/Digitalcamo Duct Tape for outer appearance) Or you’re really good at Photoshop 8^). I’m going to assume it’s a flaw in my diagram, as I did the PTB on my Squier double fat strat and on an Epiphone SG with success. This wiring will work great for the latter approach: Use the low-voltage Schottky diodes specified in the article. For the life of me, I CANNOT get the diode distortion to work :cuss: (indicating that I need to do more research into how diodes make distortion and whether or not I actually did buy the right kind from Micro Center or if I need to go shopping again…and don’t ask what I bought, the package got lost and I have no idea…Hi, I’m a noob! I'm onboard with the Stringmaster crowd. Have you tried Ge diodes such as 1n34a? Boss Metal Zone Guitar Distortion Pedal $45 (new haven) pic hide this posting restore restore this posting. This circuit has been built to simulate classic "overdrive"-style tones, and it is like having four of the best known overdrive pedal … 2) Thin distortion In most audio applications, distortion is undesirable and audiophiles go to great lengths to rid their audio setup of distortion-creating characteristics. 168 Hz, C = 3.8 nF (3800 pF, 0.0038 uF) 1-Mega Pot for volume Thanks guys. Put the switch across the cap (shorting it out when turned on). Driving diode pairs with a larger signal simply makes the distortion sustain for longer, it does not make the signal out of the diodes any louder. How to install the best guitar effect. This creates a “thin” distortion sound. So for a pair of back-to-back Schottky diodes the signal is clipped to 0.4volts peak to peak, for Germanium to 0.6volts and for Silicon to 1.2volts. Being able to summon effects from your guitar controls can inspire new musical ideas. Hey joe i have a strat with 3 single coil pickups and i cant seem to find a wiring diagram to get the diodes in place so if you have any tips or photos please let me know and what im trying to do is instead of adding another ill just use the middle one for the diodes. Do you have links to any audio examples? This creates a “thick” distortion sound. Actually I had three i gave two away to fender loving friends. Thanks for stepping up, Shizmab! Thanks a ton for your time trying to help me with this. 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When I saw this, and then looked at my bass (a Dean Edge, nothing special), it all kinda clicked. With the battery connected (aka the QDD2 is powered), the guitar signal is very faint and boomy, pretty much zero high end.Artec QDD2 onboard Guitar Distortion. Been a busy few days, during which I neglected to check back here. will just 1 led mean less signal loss? And thanks again Joe for the articles and video, this blog has proven priceless in the last few years of experimenting with guitar-related weirdness ! A tone cap sends signal to ground, but i wasn’t sending mine to ground. I am happy to explain how these work or help you figure out how to select component values, if you like. Yeah, that would totally work. Although most small audio transformers of that type will probably load the pickups somewhat and reduce treble (perhaps desirable in a distortion circuit). But honestly, I think it’s probably best to take this effect as it is, volume drop and all. A metallic box, 2 mono jacks, cable and the diodes only? https://tonefiend.com/effects/amped-up-acoustic/. Clearly your blog has made a tinkerer out of me…. The RGKP6 also has onboard distortion, which can take it from squeaky clean to completely molten with the flick a conveniently placed toggle switch. LOL — hey Larry, I’m sorry I haven’t figured out how to add a revision feature to comments. $45. Also, while using different diodes is a cool way to customize the sound of a 9v-powered distortion pedal, only certain types of diodes work in this PASSIVE circuit. 100 onboard high-quality digital effects, including distortion, overdrive, EQ, compression, delay, reverb, flanging, phasing, and chorusing; 8 new amp simulators that precisely emulate the sonic characteristics of the tubes, transistors, and circuitry used in classic amps, plus 8 cabinet simulators that add the tonality of well-known speaker cabinets But sadly, you need to add a battery to make the LED illuminate. to have a single 2-way switch (I’m thinking about the rythm switch on my Jazzmaster) which both activates the diodes circuit and puts the pickups in series, which if I’m not mistaken increases the output of the guitar ? Many models to choose from at great prices. The point here is to try to get fuzzy synth-tones out of a bass using the various rolloffs, distortion, and kill switch. Greetings!

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